Monday, November 24, 2008
mps Gesse by Zz Packer
Packer’s short story “Geese” is the first in this collection to intrigue me. It is the only one of her stories that caused a desire in me to anticipate the next page. And so you can imagine the disappointment that came over me as I read the last sentence. I turned the page after digesting its last few words. There was nothing there. I needed more and knew that I must have missed something. So I reread the last paragraph and it put all the pieces together.
In the second reading I noticed that the ending of this story is unique. Not to all stories but to those within this particular collection. This is the only time in the collection that Packer uses the reflection of a character to conclude her story. This is probably why I didn’t recognize it as what it was.
In it she briefly describes the work of Japanese kamikaze pilots. “How they pledge their lives to the emperor and take flight on suicide missions with only enough fuel for the one way trip.” (Pg. 209) And the narrator also mentions that when Dina had first read about these pilots, in the “all knowing arrogance of youth she concluded that there had to be another way. She in the same circumstance would have done things differently.”
The point that Packer is making here is to liken the Kamikaze suicide missions to the path that Dina is currently on. As she does this we come to find that Dina had been wrong to assume she would have done things differently. If we consider a few instances that occur in Dina’s story before she prostitutes herself, we can see the parallels.
For instance in the beginning Dina makes a sort of pact like the one made to the emperor, with her family and friends that she is going to Japan to make a large sum of money before moving on. Than when she uses the last of the money she has on futile things like buying ice cream for Ari. Like the kamikazes do, she leaves herself in a terrible circumstance, by not preparing for a possible change in plans. Dina in this situation did everything just as the Kamikaze did. She led herself down a deadly path and makes no previsions for escape.
secretary of bestcornergroup08,
melissapierresaint
Drinking Coffee Elsewhere: “Geese” and “Doris is coming”
An interesting sequence of events that jumped out at me in “Geese” was one that took place between Dina and Sayeed. After Sayeed tried to kill Dina the two started to avoid each other at all costs. “Not a schedule exactly, but a way of doing things. If he returned from a day of looking for work he might ask every one how the day had gone. In that case she would not answer, because she was to understand that he was not speaking to her. If she was in a corner of the room she would go to another.”(Packer p.223) For some reason this reminded me of the intricate tango that takes place between a couple that is headed for divorce but can not come to terms with that fact yet. I know there was little if any love between Dina and Sayeed, but I could not help but be reminded of this exact tango my parents carried out for years preceding their own divorce. Nothing was admitted to be wrong, but nothing seemed to be going right either. The lack of communication and retreating to opposite ends of the house were common. For some reason when I read this quote this imagery leaped off the page and into my head, bringing me right back to the hostility of 1999.
Comment two:
In Doris is coming a passage that called to me was on page 246 where Doris is describing her return from school to home. “but she knew her father must be home; she could hear him hammering away. Her father was trying to build a third bedroom where their back porch had been, but the partition made from blankets never kept out the draft. She turned on the kitchen stove to warm the house and start dinner, wondering why her father had picked winter, of all times, to tear down two major walls of the house.” (Packer p.246) She goes on to describe the pock pock of the hammers meeting the nail heads. This jumped out to me being that my father did indeed make the same mistake when trying to renovate our porch into a “new room”. He picked late fall to start this project thinking it would only take a few weeks and that we would be spared from the cold arrival of winter because the gaping hole in the side of our house would be a finished room by then. Oh boy was he wrong the project took like 5-6 weeks longer than anticipated and I can still remember waking up in the morning for school to the pleasant smell of cooking gas. My mother used the same method of blasting the oven to warm the rest of the house. This one brought me back to 1989.
Posted by Michael Clark
"Drinking Coffee Elsewhere" By ZZ Packer
Posted By: Krista Behrends
"Drinking Coffee Elsewhere" By: ZZ Packer
Posted by: Krista Behrends
Monday, November 17, 2008
"Drinking Coffee Elsewhere" second response
In speaking in tongues a comment need to be made about a particular passage that stood out to me. "Dezi kissed her cheek... it was the first time a male had kissed her... she had always imagined that when someone kissed her, her eyes would be closed in anticipation, she would be waiting to receive the kiss" Knowing the circumstances of this scene takes away from how truly romantic this thought that Tea is having at this moment. I reminded me of my first kiss and how I thought it would be perfect, eyes closed, music playing, me saying something romantic, but in reality it was nothing like that. In fact I remember the first one, quick and awkward, and then it was over. Innocence lost forever in a passionate kiss in a dark closet at my neighbors birthday party.
posted by Michael Clark
"Drinking Coffee Elsewhere" By ZZ Packer
ZZ Packer’s short story “Drinking Coffee Elsewhere” was one of the best stories in this book so far. I really enjoyed the story line and the playfulness of the concepts and dialogue. I could almost imagine walking on to the Yale campus and seeing circles of people asking very philosophical questions. I loved Dina’s response, so honest and challenging in the basis of the atmosphere. Can you imagine, you get accepted to a school like Yale and disappoint everyone on the very first day! However, she did get a lot out of it such as having her own room and always being left alone. My favorite part of the story was when her and Heidi hosed each other down in the cafeteria. It seemed to be the peak of the story. Dina finally seemed to come out of her shell and have fun with life. All in all, this was a great short story. I found it unique in it’s emotion and honesty and I truly enjoyed reading it.
Posted by: Krista Behrends
mps Drinking Coffee...
a comment
While interviewing ZZ Packer, Robert Birnbaum asks if she is considered a black writer. " She agrees that she is but adds “I am writing for black people, but I am also writing for whites, for Chinese, for Americans”. Her point: being black doesn’t limit an author to a black audience.
I thought about how frequently authors will respond to a question like this one in the same manor. Acknowledging their race, and confidently sure that they possess the ability to speak to all people regardless of their differences. I hear it all the time but I wonder if it is true. I understand that anyone who pick up this collection becomes Packer’s audience, whoever they me be. But I wonder if we should be just all more honest about the term audience. Should we be considering other factors…. like humor maybe? [I know that’s a bit random. Try to fallow me]
Packer’s stories are filled with great humor. Maybe not knock your socks off funny. But it’s smart and witty. I found myself laughing a lot but because I’ve had this idea of audience on my mind it made me question; who when reading this book would be laughing with me. Who would understand the humor that she incorporates into her work and who would not? While reading the story “Brownies” for the second time, I stopped a moment mid laugh to acknowledge the possibilities. “Caucasian Chihuahuas…What are you? Caucasian?... That was so Caucasian!” (pg 3&4). Being an insider on the joke, I thought that, that was hysterical! Well that is until I flipped the script. Black Chihuahuas. What are you? Black? That was so Black! It just wasn’t as funny anymore and I assume it might not have been as funny for her White audience. [I couldn’t be sure. I meant to ask someone. But It's such an odd question to ask.]
In any case, would it be completely terrible if White people didn’t think that was funny? You know I’m not sure. And this makes me consider all the other features of a writer’s work that can be lost in translation. It makes me more conscious to the fact that even when you read a story you can be an insider or an outsider and I’m starting to consider that the insiders might be a writer’s true audience. For instance in Packer’s stories she tell of the racial divide and black identity that she is accustomed to, in her everyday life as an American. What I am proposing is that the experiences and circumstance she writes about it are best understood by those who who’ve share them with her. This doesn’t exclude everyone else from being her audience. But it might mean that every story [not just Packer’s] has a true audience. One who is best able to catch emotions and views the author shares with the reader. Even they’re simple jokes.
Now if that is the case, something a simple as race [ha] could not be a sufficient divider for every joke in every story or every circumstance our characters face. But I think it worked in the Chihuahua joke to help me acknowledge all the other factors that celebrate an author’s true audience.
The audience within the audience …boy is that deep.
secretary of bestconrnergroup08,
melissapierresaint
the interview: http://www.identitytheory.com/interviews/birnbaum103.html
Sunday, November 16, 2008
Class Canceled November 17
Class for Monday, November 17, is canceled. Please bring your assignments for this week’s class to next week’s class, along with the assignment for next week. Your assignment for next week is to finish reading Drinking Coffee Elsewhere and write a response paper, or complete any of the alternatives for writing a response paper (including writing two comments about the reading). So, in total, for November 24, you should have finished reading all of Drinking Coffee Elsewhere and should bring in two response papers, or their alternatives.
The group that was to present tomorrow will present on November 24, in addition to the group that was already scheduled to present on November 24.
I’m canceling class because I’ve thrown my back out of alignment. It occasionally happens, but I’ll be back on November 24.
Please email me if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Karen
Thursday, November 13, 2008
Response Papers
Instead of completing a two-page response to the stories, you can bring in TWO comments on the assigned reading. Comments can be anything of interest that you've noticed in the stories, for example, a paragraph that included an unusual or beautiful description of something, an observation about the nature of a character, or a comparison between the assigned short story and a previous short story. Be prepared to read your comments aloud in class, as well as remark on other's comments. Your comments will still be graded.
Wednesday, November 12, 2008
"Speaking In Tongues" By: ZZ Packer
In the story “Speaking in Tongues” we meet Tia, a young church-going and naïve teen from the South running away to Atlanta to find her real mother. Her strength and brevity seemed admirable until you realized that it wasn’t really strength, but foolishness and naiveté that landed her at Dezi’s apartment. In the scene when Dezi begins kissing and undressing her I experienced a mixture of feelings. As I imagined this young woman in my head being taken advantage of by a thirty-two year old man I felt sympathy, anger, frustration, and most of all shock. Yes, my mouth actually dropped while reading this passage. It seems that Packer confronts many scenarios and though it should be expected or not surprising when you come by such events, but somehow it still manages to shock the reader.
The unfortunate truth is that these stories happen more often than any of us would like to believe. Packer just brings it to the forefront of your mind. I really hope Tia made it home.
Posted by: Krista Behrends
Monday, November 10, 2008
Drinking Coffee Elsewhere, by Z.Z. Packer
In "Our Lady of Peace" we are given a glimpse into the inner city Baltimore school system. Tired of not being able to make her rent our narrator decides that she will become a schoolteacher. Sounds simple enough but is it? This story resonated with me because it shows the true perseverance of teachers, and the strife they deal with on a daily basis. Most people think that there could not be an easier job, summers and holidays off, but as we see here there is a whole lot more than meets the eye. Our narrator has trouble enticing the class with her lesson plans, and controlling the classroom. She turns to Sheba, a juvenile delinquent living at the Our Lady of Peace home for children, which is actually more like a jail. Sheba has a bad reputation; it is rumored that she shanked her former teacher at her old school. The students quickly fall into line when Sheba decides that they should shut up and pay attention. Everything seems to be working out until Sheba turns on the teacher, she gets pregnant and stops coming to class.
While trying to restore peace to the classroom and her life the teacher decides to on a peace offering to Sheba, she offers her a ride home. Things do not work out as planned and our narrator is upset with the world as it is today. She cannot stand the nonchalant attitude of the inner city youth, two of which are taking their sweet time crossing the street in front of her. Fed up with it all she decides to floor the gas pedal to give the kids a scare. She ends up accidentally hitting one of the kids, and flees the scene. She eventually decides that she is no longer cut out for teaching these kids who don't care for learning or advancement in any way shape of form. It took a bunch of chaos for her to realize where her peace lies, one thing is for sure, it is not at Our Lady of Peace.
posted by Michael Clark
Comment on “The Ant of the Self” By ZZ Packer
Posted by: Krista Behrends
Comment on “Every Tongue Shall Confess” By ZZ Packer
Firstly, I got a kick out of the length of the name of the church and how Sister Clareese never shortened the name but continued to repeat “Brother’s Church Council of Greater Christ Emmanuel Pentecostal Church of the Fire Baptized.” I liked the way ZZ Packer used italics to exaggerate or emphasize words in dialogue. As if, while you are reading you are getting the attitude of the character through the emphasis on certain words. When the father was preaching about call-waiting, for example, you can almost hear the ring of it and his voice. “Jeeeee-uz did not tell his Daddy- ‘I’m sorry, Pops, but my girlfriend is on the other line’; Jeeeee-zus – never told the Omnipotent One, ‘can you wait a sec… Jeeeeeeee-zus – never told Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John, ‘I’m sorry but I got to put you on hold…” While reading this I almost heard the preachers’ voice in my head. Emphasis on words is something everyone does in reality and I thought it was interesting that Packer incorporated it in to her stories.
Posted by: Krista Behrends
Thursday, November 6, 2008
Professorial Brainstorm
Derby Pie
Every Sunday after church, my grandmother's kitchen in Louisville, Ky., became a kind of depository for desserts. Female relatives and friends would drop off cakes and pies on her sideboard the way guests at a wedding fill up the gift table. Most were of the too-delicious-to-be-true black Southern strain: seven-layer caramel cakes, sweet-potato-and-yam pies, cinnamon-flecked peach cobblers or ''Sock It to Me'' cakes with a dollop of sour cream. My favorite was my great-aunt Fannie Lou's version of Kentucky Derby pie.
The Kentucky Derby is run the first Saturday in May, and in addition to bourbon-heavy mint juleps, hot browns, burgoo and other Kentuckified foods, Derby wouldn't be complete without Derby pie. (I should say so-called Derby pie, because by trademark, only Alan Rupp, of Kern's Kitchen Inc., can make a true ''Derby pie'' -- though to my mind, a batter of melted butter, egg yolks, flour, chocolate chips and walnuts poured into a pie crust seems as elemental and universally delicious as ice cream.)
My first time eating Rupp's ''real'' Derby pie came when I went to the Bristol Bar and Grill on Bardstown Road in Louisville as a teenager. Like my great-aunt Fannie Lou's pie, Rupp's is a veritable dessert casserole, and like a casserole, the pie must be served warm. Not sizzling, not tepid, just hot enough to be on the verge of melting, so that there is just the right amount of -- how else to put it? -- goo. And this ''goo factor'' is why reactions to the pie range from incoherent babbling to orgasmic moans. The yolky messiness of it transports you to some prenatal limbic state, evoking the euphoric feeling of licking cake batter from the spoon, eating raw cookie dough or stuffing melting s'mores into your mouth.
Official Derby pie is supposedly made with a layer of chocolate chips lining the bottom of the crust, the batter poured over the chips to keep them undisturbed and the heat of the oven baking the topmost layer so that it forms a kind of flaky-crispy crust. When you cut into it, you can see the sedimentary layers. I prefer my great-aunt Fannie Lou's version, which looks more like a cross-section of half-molten conglomerate rock. And hers is best enjoyed a day or two after it's baked, when all the ingredients have had a chance to work their magic on one another.
Though I've eaten many versions of the pie (some use pecans instead of walnuts, some add bourbon to the batter or make it less viscous with additional flour, some top it off with bourbon whipped cream), I haven't found any that improves upon Fannie Lou's. I do, however, expect that someday someone will subject Derby pie to the grand unified theory of Southern cuisine: ''If it tastes good now, it'll taste even better fried.''
Fannie Lou's Thoroughbred
(Almost Derby) Pie
[serves 6]
1 unbaked 9-inch pie crust
4 tablespoons butter, melted
2 large eggs
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
1 cup dark brown sugar
1/2 cup flour
3/4 cup chopped walnuts
3/4 cup semisweet-chocolate chips.
1. Preheat the oven to 350 degrees. Place the crust in a pie plate and prick the bottom with a fork. Cover lightly with a sheet of foil, pressing it gently into the crust and making sure the edges are covered. Place weights (metal pie weights or dried beans) on the foil to weigh down the bottom and hold up the sides of the crust. Bake for 10 minutes, then remove foil. Continue baking until the crust is firm and has lost its sheen but is not browned, about 5 more minutes. Remove from the heat and set aside.
2. In a medium bowl, combine the butter, eggs and vanilla extract. Add the brown sugar and flour and mix until thoroughly blended. Using a rubber spatula, fold in the walnuts and chocolate chips.
3. Pour the batter into the crust. Bake until puffed and golden brown, about 30 minutes. Remove from the heat and place on a rack to cool. Serve warm.
ZZ Packer is the author of Drinking Coffee Elsewhere: Stories.'
Monday, November 3, 2008
civil war and the bad decline
"Civilwarland in Bad Decline" by George Saunders
In "the 400 pound CEO" we encounter Jeffrey an overweight office worker who is constantly harassed by his co-workers about his weight and unsightly looks. He was not always so large, at one point he would describe himself as portly, which is a nice way of saying fat but without such a negative connotation. His job is to sell humane capture and release of pesky varmint like raccoons. Certain housewives cannot deal with killing such pests and it weighs lighter on their conscience if they go the humane route. The problem is they are capturing and killing the raccoons anyway. Jeffery's boss is a rotten man with many deficiencies. He spent time in jail for intentionally backing over a frat boy with his car. While in jail he conceptualized his rouse. He even has an S&M chamber in the basement of the office. When an animal rights activist uncovers his mode of operations we finally see Jeffery step out side the norm and stand up to his boss. He was going to kill her in the woods and burry her in the same mass grave as the raccoons. Here Jeffery intervenes accidentally killing his boss. In the end he is sentenced to 50 years to life in jail, suffering for the rest of his days for doing what was right. His boss gets off easy with death while he has to endure nightly go-rounds with an inmate that has made him his property. If he just let evil run its course he might not have ended up in such a bad situation. He made a choice to do what is right; sometimes the law is blind to right and wrong. At least he can take solace in knowing he did the right thing regardless of the repercussions.
Posted by Michael Clark